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		<title>GoogleBase Troubleshooting</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just spent a large part of the last week troubleshooting a GoogleBase data feed. Question: Data Feed says 8660 of 8660 items inserted, but no Items (Active, Published or Inactive) pjtpj Level 1 7/27/09 We have written a program that generates and uploads a tab delimited data feed file. This program was working fine [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just spent a large part of the last week troubleshooting a <a href="http://base.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=58083">GoogleBase data feed</a>. <span id="more-32"></span></p>
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<div class="wpcpdCSS" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 165px; padding: 0px; position: relative; min-height: 45px;">We have written a program that generates and uploads a tab delimited data feed file. This program was working fine for several months until around June 16. Starting around June 17, the program and the FTP upload has been working, but GoogleBase is not updating our GoogleBase items from the data feed file. We didn&#8217;t make any changes on our end and all required fields are in our data feed file. All our GoogleBase items eventually expired and were deleted last week.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p>Last Friday, I tried logging in to GoogleBase with my browser and manually uploading the data feed file. The data feed file was processed successfully, with a handful of the usual warnings and errors we always get (missing upc, encoding problems, missing discription). The missing UPC was a problem for all our products, but we only have 22 products with other errors. As before, I see the message &#8220;8622 of 8622 items inserted&#8221;, but I see no Items. Next, on Saturday, I tried adding a new Data Feed file. This time, the file got stuck &#8220;Processing&#8221; until today. Today, I finally got the error &#8220;Error: Internal server error while retrieving 9 # 0&#8243;. OK, so that is just some weird error.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p>Today, I changed our program to add UPCs where we have them and manually uploaded the data feed file again. I quickly got &#8220;8660 of 8660 items inserted &#8211; Processed on Jul 27, 2009 6:09 pm CST&#8221;, and the usual handful of warnings and errors (now I get some invalid UPC errors), but still I have no GoogleBase items.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p>I can manually add new Items and they become &#8220;Published and searchable&#8221;.</p>
<p>The Data Quality tab is basiclly empty (has information about the 1 item we created manually).<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p>I tried creating a new GoogleBase account from scratch, but Google won&#8217;t let me create another account for the same web site (fair enough, I&#8217;m just trying to troubleshoot).<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p>Any suggestions?</p>
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<div class="wpcpdCSS" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 165px; padding: 0px; position: relative; min-height: 45px;">I just received a large batch of data feed related emails. The one associated with the most recent data feed file upload says:</p>
<p>No items inserted<br />
Uploaded at: July 27, 2009 6:03:44 PM CST<br />
Processed at: July 27, 2009 6:09:30 PM CST</p>
<p>For more details on the status of your data feed, go to http://www.google.com/base/showfeedsummary?fid=1336756</p>
<p>When I click on the link, I get the same &#8220;8660 of 8660 items inserted &#8211; Processed on Jul 27, 2009 6:09 pm CST&#8221; page I&#8217;ve already seen.</p>
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has there ever been any disapproved messages seen within any account?</div>
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Display name: Mountain High Outfitters<br />
Account ID: 2476386</p>
<p>No, we haven&#8217;t ever had any problems with disapproved items. There is one inactive/disapproved item right now &#8211; it&#8217;s the item with the title &#8220;Test Item 1&#8243; I created on Friday to see if I could manually add an item.</p>
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<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; position: relative;" dir="ltr">first, check the &#8216;view errors and suggestions&#8217; page.</p>
<p>if there are no messages on the view-errors page &#8211;<br />
you would need to contact google-base directly here:<br />
<a style="color: #551a8b;" rel="nofollow" href="http://base.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=error&amp;ctx=direct" target="_blank">http://base.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=error&amp;ctx=direct</a></p>
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<div class="wpcpdCSS" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 165px; padding: 0px; position: relative; min-height: 45px;">There is nothing the &#8220;view errors and suggestions&#8221; that would suggest why we have no items. As I mentioned earlier, we do have problems on 22 of the 8660 products, but there is nothing I would consider critical and nothing we weren&#8217;t seeing a month ago.</p>
<p>Today, I fixed a problem with custom attribute names (we were including spaces). This problem was always there, but I figured fixing it was worth a try. My upload just finished processing and it hasn&#8217;t seemed to help&#8230; still no items.</p>
<p>As you suggested, I filled out a support request. Thanks.</p>
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<div class="wpcpdCSS" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 165px; padding: 0px; position: relative; min-height: 45px;">Pjtpj / Celebird, I am experiencing exactly the same issue.  I upload our files and immediately get an email saying &#8216;No Items Inserted&#8217; but when I click into my dashboard it says &#8220;x of x&#8221; (etc.) inserted successfully for all data feeds.  Under errors/suggestions it says I am missing the weight attribute but that the weight attribute is not required and will affect the feed. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p>I have been experiencing this issue for over 2 weeks now.  I have been in contact with someone named Atanu at Google, &amp; have sent well over 7 replies to him.  He has been somewhat responsive but each time just responds with a canned response saying &#8220;our engineers are working on resolving this issue. We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience.&#8221;  As I&#8217;m sure is the case with you, this has had a significant impact on our traffic and sales.  Has anyone else who is experiencing this problem found a workaround or a more solid response from Google?</p>
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<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; position: relative;" dir="ltr">We had the same issue &#8230; identical, but our feed is Atom 1.0</p>
<p>We are making progress having successfully processed only 100 out of 30000+ products.  Little by little, we are adding more the the new feed and going from there.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what we did (for Atom 1.0 feed):<br />
Having nothing to lose (our products expired as well), we deleted the feed file from Google Base dashboard<br />
Made sure no products showed in<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a style="color: #551a8b;" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.google.com/base" target="_blank">www.google.com/base</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>by authorid and by site:<a style="color: #0000cc;" rel="nofollow" href="http://site.com/" target="_blank">site.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>search (count = 0)<br />
Added a new feed file in the Google Base dashboard having a new unique file name different than all others used before<br />
Created a new feed file having the exact content EXCEPT the //id was new, unique and different than all others used before &#8211; only having 2 products<br />
Made sure those 2 products showed in<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a style="color: #551a8b;" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.google.com/base" target="_blank">www.google.com/base</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>by authorid and by site:<a style="color: #0000cc;" rel="nofollow" href="http://site.com/" target="_blank">site.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>search (count = 2)<br />
Attempt at all 30000+ in a file failed &#8230; looked like we were back to square one<br />
Attempt at 3000+ file failed &#8230; looked like we were still at square one<br />
Attempt at 100 file succeeded!  We excluded products we did not have UPC or placeholder images, CDATA&#8217;ed the //entry/product_type and shortened the //entry/title in this file as well<br />
We are at the point of progressively adding more products to the file trying to pinpoint the issue.</p>
<p>If anything is found, I will be more than happy to share the information. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p>~Jamie</p>
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<div class="wpcpdCSS" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 165px; padding: 0px; position: relative; min-height: 45px;">ditto to pjtpj. I am facing the same issues with our feed just like pjtpj.<br />
I have sent couple of emails to google.<br />
still waiting for an answer.<br />
lets hope its nothing serious.<br />
- Mel</div>
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<div class="wpcpdCSS" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 165px; padding: 0px; position: relative; min-height: 45px;">Thanks for all the replies. I haven&#8217;t heard anything back from Google, but I will post here when/if I figure anything out.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p>From the comments above, I suspect that the problem has something to do with the actual data in my data feed file. eimaj, maybe you can pinpoint the offending data via binary search: Divide the data in halves, then try to process each half separately. If one of the halves works, then divide the half that doesn&#8217;t work in halves (quarters of the original file) and try to process each new half separately and so on. This should at least be faster than trying 100 products at a time. Maybe something we added or updated around June 17 is causing the Google data feed file processing code to crash and/or reject all our items. Or maybe Google made some change to the code they use to process data feed files.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p>Here is the email I just got from today&#8217;s upload:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p>No items inserted<br />
Uploaded at: July 28, 2009 7:37:05 AM CST<br />
Processed at: July 28, 2009 8:10:40 AM CST</p>
<p>But, still, when I login to look at the data feed, I see &#8220;8660 of 8660 items inserted &#8211; Processed on Jul 28, 2009 8:10 am CST&#8221;.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p>This mismatch between the count of items inserted in the email and the web page is some kind of bug, but it doesn&#8217;t help point me to what is causing the problem. Just a little feedback from Google might go a long way&#8230;</p>
<p>Since others are reading this thread and having similar problems, I&#8217;m going to share some of my code and see if anybody else sees anything obviously wrong. Going with the theory that there is a problem in the data file, maybe there is a problem with the way I am encoding the file&#8217;s data fields. Here is the function I use to encode most data fields:</p>
<p>static char[] _quotedCharacters = new char[] { &#8216;\t&#8217;, &#8216;\r&#8217;, &#8216;\n&#8217;, &#8216;&#8221;&#8216; };</p>
<p>// GoogleBase specific rules<br />
// See http://base.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=25200&amp;hl=en_US<br />
public string TsvQuote(string s)<br />
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if (s.IndexOfAny(_quotedCharacters) &gt;= 0)<br />
s = &#8220;\&#8221;&#8221; + s.Replace(&#8220;\&#8221;&#8221;, &#8220;\&#8221;\&#8221;&#8221;) + &#8220;\&#8221;&#8221;;</p>
<p>return s;<br />
}</p>
<p>Here is the header line from my data feed file:</p>
<p>description	id	upc	link	price	title	brand	product_type	image_link	weight	quantity	condition	color	size	c:frame_lens:string	c:flavor:string c:length:string	c:waist_x_inseam:string	c:zipper:string</p>
<p>We use our own categories for product_type. The way the values are input into the system, the users can&#8217;t enter in non-printable characters, so I just do a simple search and replace for double quotes:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p>StringBuilder categoryText = new StringBuilder(category.Name);</p>
<p>while (category.ParentCategoryID != null)<br />
{<br />
category = Category.FindCachedCategory(category.ParentCategoryID.Value);<br />
if (category == null)<br />
{<br />
categoryValid = false;<br />
return &#8220;&#8221;;<br />
}</p>
<p>categoryText.Insert(0, category.Name.Replace(&#8220;\&#8221;&#8221;, &#8220;&#8221;) + &#8221; &gt; &#8220;);<br />
}</p>
<p>return categoryText.ToString();</p>
<p>All the above code seemed reasonable at the time and was working OK until about June 16. OpenOffice has no problem parsing my file properly. I do have some HTML embedded into descriptions, and I&#8217;m not sure how GoogleBase treats that, but the HTML is not new.</p>
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<p>1) I am worried about product_type. The GoogleBase specifications aren&#8217;t crystal clear&#8230; I coded up my best guess and it seemed to work, but maybe it really doesn&#8217;t. Here are some examples from my data feed file:</p>
<p>&#8220;Clothing &gt; Men&#8217;s Clothing &gt; Men&#8217;s Lifestyle Clothing &gt; Men&#8217;s Lifestyle Pants&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Accessories &gt; Gift Cards&#8221;,&#8221;Gift Ideas &gt; Gifts $50 &#8211; $74.99&#8243;,&#8221;Gift Ideas &gt; Graduation Gifts&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Accessories &gt; Gift Cards&#8221;,&#8221;Gift Ideas &gt; Gifts $75 &#8211; $100&#8243;,&#8221;Gift Ideas &gt; Graduation Gifts&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Accessories &gt; Gift Cards&#8221;,&#8221;Gift Ideas &gt; Gifts $100+&#8221;,&#8221;Gift Ideas &gt; Graduation Gifts&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Accessories &gt; Gift Cards&#8221;,&#8221;Gift Ideas &gt; Gifts $100+&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Gear &gt; Camping/Hiking &gt; Backpacks &gt; Fast and Light Packs&#8221;,&#8221;Gear &gt; Camping/Hiking &gt; Backpacks &gt; Weekend Packs&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Accessories &gt; Book Bags&#8221;,&#8221;Activities &gt; Adventure Travel &gt; Travel Gear &gt; Travel Packs&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Activities &gt; Adventure Travel &gt; Travel Gear &gt; Travel Packs&#8221;,&#8221;Gear &gt; Camping/Hiking &gt; Backpacks &gt; Day Packs&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Gear &gt; Camping/Hiking &gt; Backpacks &gt; Day Packs&#8221;,&#8221;Activities &gt; Adventure Travel &gt; Travel Gear &gt; Travel Packs&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Footwear &gt; Men&#8217;s Footwear &gt; Men&#8217;s Multisport Footwear&#8221;,&#8221;Activities &gt; Climb &gt; Climbing Shoes&#8221;,&#8221;Earth friendly Gear&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Clearance &gt; Winter Sale&#8221;,&#8221;Clothing &gt; Kid&#8217;s Clothing &gt; Kid&#8217;s Shirts&#8221;</p>
<p>As you can see, many of our products are in multiple categories / product_types and I believe we handle this correctly according to GoogleBase, but maybe somebody can see something I&#8217;m doing wrong.</p>
<p>2) I upload products with 0 quantity in stock. I know that these items are automatically deactivated, but that is what I want and it seems to be the most straightfoward way to make sure that products that go out of stock in our stores are removed/deactivated from GoogleBase.</p>
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today in the morning I read that it may be a possibility that the file size is too big.<br />
I read it in google help pages.<br />
So, I divided my feed into two parts.<br />
But no luck, the same thing happens. You can see the products being inserted but the email mentions that No Products Inserted. Also, when I checked the &#8220;data quality&#8221; tab, it does not show the new products.<br />
So, if any of you get around it, please let me know on the thread. I am watching it.<br />
Thanks<br />
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<div class="wpcpdCSS" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 165px; padding: 0px; position: relative; min-height: 45px;">OK, so I think I am starting to narrow down the problem. Based on the idea from eimaj, I only kept the first 291 items in my data feed and eventually got back this email:</p>
<p>278 of 291 items inserted<br />
Uploaded at: July 28, 2009 11:33:31 AM CST<br />
Processed at: July 28, 2009 11:46:58 AM CST</p>
<p>And now a couple of hours later, I finally have 273 items &#8220;Published&#8230; searchable soon&#8221;. Between character encoding errors in description or quantity = 0, the missing items can all be accounted for. So, the problem seems to be somewhere in the content of my other 8369 items&#8230; Item # 292 has some Word HTML garbage &#8211; my current theory is that the source of the problem is with the HTML in some of the descriptions. I have figured out that some HTML is OK, because tables and bullet lists seem to make it through. One idea is that if any of the descriptions contain certain tags (&lt;head&gt;, &lt;title&gt;, &lt;style&gt;, &lt;script&gt;, etc.), then some final stage of data feed processing crashes and the entire feed ends up in the bit bucket.</p>
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<div class="wpcpdCSS" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 165px; padding: 0px; position: relative; min-height: 45px;">hello pjtpj<br />
i understand that you had some &#8220;html code&#8221; in one of the line.<br />
but my feed is strictly text, tab deliminated.<br />
i did check it before posting this reply.<br />
any more inputs will be appreciated.<br />
I am just hoping that google might have fixed this issue (if there was something wrong with them to begin with)<br />
Thanks<br />
Mel</div>
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<div class="wpcpdCSS" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 165px; padding: 0px; position: relative; min-height: 45px;">Did you try to submit data feed without custom attributes? We have exactly same problem. All items items just disappeared from active items tab.</div>
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<div class="wpcpdCSS" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 165px; padding: 0px; position: relative; min-height: 45px;">yes we did<br />
but we really get high rankings when we have custom attributes.<br />
I just heard from couple of good sources that FTP does not work.<br />
This time I have tried to schedule the feed and let google fetch by itself.<br />
lets see how this works.<br />
i&#8217;ll keep it posted<br />
Thanks<br />
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<div class="wpcpdCSS" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 165px; padding: 0px; position: relative; min-height: 45px;">The 291 items that successfully processed yesterday had custom attributes. You can see the custom attribute I&#8217;m using in the header from my data feed file I posted above.</div>
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<div class="wpcpdCSS" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 165px; padding: 0px; position: relative; min-height: 45px;">Cheapercigars, if it&#8217;s the FTP that you&#8217;ve been hearing is down, do you know if the API is working? Anyone using the API just fine?</div>
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<div class="wpcpdCSS" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 165px; padding: 0px; position: relative; min-height: 45px;">This morning, I created and uploaded a data feed file that avoided any product that had &lt;head &lt;title &lt;style &lt;script or &lt;meta in its description. That did not work. Now I have taken that data feed file and broken it into 4 parts. I am processing all 4 parts right now. Maybe 1 or more part will succeed and help me pinpoint the source of the problem.</div>
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<div class="wpcpdCSS" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 165px; padding: 0px; position: relative; min-height: 45px;">Yesterday, I worked it down to a data feed file with only 9 items that causes the problem. I have tried 3 different possible guesses as to what in the file is causing the problem, but I haven&#8217;t figured it out yet.</p>
<p>This morning, I got a fairly generic email response from GoogleBase Support:</p>
<p>Thank you for your email. I have reviewed your Google Base account and the<br />
reason few items your file are failing is because your feed contains<br />
unsupported characters. For example, certain white space characters, such<br />
as tabs, may not process correctly and will result in a feed failure.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p>To correct this error, please remove all unsupported characters like HTML<br />
tags etc from your feed and upload your file again.</p>
<p>Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this response was not helpful. I already knew about the &#8220;few items&#8221; and, as mentioned here, I have submitted multiple data feed files that don&#8217;t have any of these issues, but still fail to update my GoogleBase items.</p>
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<div class="wpcpdCSS" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 165px; padding: 0px; position: relative; min-height: 45px;">I have finally narrowed this problem down to just 1 product/item. Here is a copy of the data feed file that will not process successfully:</p>
<p>description	id	upc	link	price	title	brand	product_type	image_link	weight	quantity	condition	color	size	c:frame_lens:string	c:flavor:string c:length:string	c:waist_x_inseam:string	c:zipper:string<br />
&#8220;&lt;ul&gt;<br />
&lt;li&gt;A multipurpose rescue/rappel rope.&lt;/li&gt;<br />
&lt;li&gt;100% nylon low stretch static.&lt;/li&gt;<br />
&lt;li&gt;Uniform sheath coverage for durability and gear compatibility .&lt;/li&gt;<br />
&lt;li&gt;Ideal for heavy duty alpine, big wall, and expedition fixing and haul lines.&lt;/li&gt;<br />
&lt;li&gt;Great for mountain rescue and industrial rope access.&lt;/li&gt;<br />
&lt;li&gt;Certified to NFPA 1983, 2006 edition for Life Safety Rope forlight use.&lt;/li&gt;<br />
&lt;/ul&gt;&#8221;	9995	 http://www.mountainhighoutfitters.com/Products/SuperStatic+7%252f16%2522+-+300ft.html	255.00	&#8220;Sterling Rope SuperStatic 7/16&#8243;&#8221; &#8211; 300ft&#8221;	Sterling Rope	&#8220;&#8221;&#8221;Gear &gt; Climbing &gt; Rope/Cord/Webbing&#8221;&#8221;&#8221;	http://mhoimages1-1.teztech.com/Products/7662.jpg	8.00 pounds 1	new</p>
<p>My current theory is that it is the URL that is tripping it up. This URL is valid (works in IE, FF and Chrome), but it does contain URL encoded characters ( / and &#8221; ) that could cause problems if unescaped. The other interesting thing about this product is that it was added to our database 14 May 2007, so it was working OK at some point (we were able to upload all our products to GoogleBase successfully in the past).</p>
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<p>description	id	upc	link	price	title	brand	product_type	image_link	weight	quantity	condition	color	size	c:frame_lens:string	c:flavor:string c:length:string	c:waist_x_inseam:string	c:zipper:string<br />
The Nose in a day, dogging your project for the painful 20th day, and everything in between, this 10.4mm rope handles all ends of the spectrum. Lightweight, it will never slow you down for a second and will always return day after day to handle the abuse your projects dish out. 39705	 http://www.mountainhighoutfitters.com/Products/Marathon+Sport+70m.html	224.00	Sterling Rope Marathon Sport 70m &#8211; 70m Sterling Rope	&#8220;&#8221;&#8221;Gear &gt; Climbing &gt; Rope/Cord/Webbing&#8221;&#8221;&#8221;	http://mhoimages1-2.teztech.com/Products/7661.jpg	7.00 pounds	2	new	 70m</p>
<p>There are no double quotes around the description because it shouldn&#8217;t need them.</p>
<p>I am going to submit this file again right now just to be sure.</p>
<p>PJ</p>
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<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; position: relative;" dir="ltr">not including html was more a policy recommendation not about formatting &#8211;<br />
but html can cause formatting issues as well so isn&#8217;t recommend at all.</p>
<p>quotes cannot be determined to be &#8220;needed&#8221; or &#8220;not needed&#8221;<br />
without knowing what the quoted-fields setting is for the feed &#8211;<br />
each feed can be set differently and effect quotation requirements.</p>
<p>without a url link to the file and knowing the settings for the registered-feed<br />
the copy-and-paste does not reflect what google-base is doing with the file &#8211;<br />
the same is true for issues such as encoding.</p>
<p>also, currently, only one product_type value is supported in tab-delimited feeds.</p>
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<p>Tab and comma delimited files existed long before Google decided to allow their use for data feed files. My understanding has always been that, in these types of files, a field &#8220;needs&#8221; to have quotes around it if it contains the delimiter character or line feed. Here is what Google has to say about this subject: http://base.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en_US&amp;answer=25200. It is not explained how the use of quotes interacts with the  &#8220;Use Quoted Fields&#8221; setting, but I always set this to &#8220;Yes&#8221; under the assumption that &#8220;Yes&#8221; allows the use of quotes around fields (but does not require it). I have many successful runs that use the code I posted above, so I think, at least to some degree, GoogleBase also understands that fields within a tab delimited file may or may not have quotes around them, depending on if they are &#8220;needed&#8221; or not.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p>I am still working on this (and just hoping that maybe somebody else sees something obvious)&#8230; if I find out for sure that the data feed file I&#8217;m working on now with just a single product is causing the problem, then I will post the file for downloading. Here are the settings I use for all my data feeds:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
Feed format: googlebase, File format: text, Encoding: autodetect (detected as UTF-8), Delimiter: tab, Use Quoted Fields: Yes</p>
<p>Where did you read that only one product_type value is supported in tab-delimited feeds? This page seems to suggest that you can have more than one: http://base.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=66818. Looking at the raw data feed file and some items that have gotten through, I figured out that I probably need to quote the comma separated product_type values individually rather than trying to quote the entire field (right now, all my product_type values end up with double-quotes around them). But this is a minor problem and I am failure sure it&#8217;s not the cause of whatever is keeping my big file from getting processed.</p>
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<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; position: relative;" dir="ltr">i wouldn&#8217;t include any html in feeds.</p>
<p>google-base feed quotes exist within the context of<br />
feed settings apart from any tab-delimited standards.</p>
<p>i believe use-quoted-fields set to &#8220;no&#8221; has always meant<br />
to turn-off the feature so quotations will be seen as part<br />
of the value &#8212; set to &#8220;yes&#8221; the feature is operational so<br />
quotations will be used as a field delimiter, not a value.</p>
<p>also, length is a google-base defined attribute so<br />
probably shouldn&#8217;t be redefined as a custom-attribute.</p>
<p>what exactly does the &#8216;view errors and suggestions&#8217; page display?</p>
<p>understood about the help information and the product_type attribute &#8212; see also:<br />
<a style="color: #551a8b;" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/base/thread?tid=476189d91e13bdaa&amp;hl=en" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/base/thread?tid=476189d91e13bdaa&amp;hl=en</a><br />
<a style="color: #551a8b;" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/base/thread?tid=77a9e517542cee97&amp;hl=en" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/base/thread?tid=77a9e517542cee97&amp;hl=en</a></p>
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<p>1 of 1 items inserted &#8211; Processed on Jul 31, 2009 7:20 am CST<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
Detected encoding: US-ASCII<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
Detected delimiter: Tab (\t)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
Detected file format: Text<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
Feed Level Messages<br />
Warning: Missing recommended attribute: upc<br />
While items missing recommended attributes will process successfully, we recommend including relevant attributes if they are available.</p>
<p>And here is what the email from GoogleBase says:</p>
<p>No items inserted<br />
Uploaded at: July 31, 2009 6:33:37 AM CST<br />
Processed at: July 31, 2009 7:20:04 AM CST</p>
<p>The &#8220;No items inserted&#8221; email is how I determine that &#8220;the problem&#8221; has occurred. I have also noticed that it takes a relatively long time to process these files. I&#8217;m sure they go into a queue and the processing time depends on how busy the GoogleBase data feed servers are, etc., but I&#8217;ve been processing these files manually for 5 days in a row and I think an hour to process a 1 product data feed file is longer than usual.</p>
<p>The GoogleBase data feed documentation explains how to create tab delimited files by hand in Excel and OpenOffice Calc, so I would assume that, at least to some degree, the GoogleBase programmers had the output of these programs in mind when they created their import code.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p>Celebird, I agree that &#8220;length&#8221; probably shouldn&#8217;t be a custom attribute. Thanks for the second pair of eyes. I&#8217;m going to try making some changes to length and see what happens. Interestingly, the length in my data feed is the length of the product (a rope in this case) and not the length of the shipped package. I wonder which one Google means by &#8220;length&#8221;? If they can use length to calculate shipping charges, then it is the length of the shipped package. I&#8217;ll try and research this.</p>
<p>Thanks for the pointers to the product_type threads. I just received an email with &#8220;Our engineers are aware of this problem and are working to resolve it.&#8221; on my issue, so, unfortunately, this seems to be some kind of standard response.</p>
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<p>Changing the name of my length field from c:length:string to c:product_length:string allowed the file with 1 product to be successfully processed. Now let&#8217;s see if I can process a real data feed file.</p>
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<p>1. On the google base dashboard, click My items tab.  Then click Data feeds.  Next click the edit link adjacent to you data feed file so you can set or verify the base configuration.</p>
<p>2. You should be in the &#8220;Edit Data Feed&#8221; screen at this stage.  Verify the following (or adjust to have them)</p>
<p>File format:                     Text<br />
Encoding:                       Autodetect<br />
Delimiter:                        Tab<br />
Use Quoted Fields:          No</p>
<p>Note, the last item should a No and NOT Yes in your case.  Then resubmit.  Hope this helps</p>
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<div class="wpcpdCSS" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 165px; padding: 0px; position: relative; min-height: 45px;">Here is the source of my problem: GoogleBase processing crashes when I have a custom attribute named &#8220;c:length:string&#8221; and a value of &#8220;70m&#8221; (I assume other non-empty values cause problems as well). I changed my custom attribute name to &#8220;c:product_length:string&#8221; and now, the email I just got back from Google says: &#8220;8584 of 8606 items inserted&#8221;.</p>
<p>Some might say that this was an obvious problem, but our Internet store allows our end users to create their own attribute groups (color, size, style, etc.). When we create a data feed file, there is some code that matches our attribute groups to standard Google attributes (color, size). If there is not a match, then we automatically create a custom attribute for GoogleBase. In our case, &#8220;length&#8221; in our data base is the product length, not the shipping length, so using a custom attribute actually make sense.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p>In addition, I ran into other issues that caused a simple problem like this to take an entire week to work out:</p>
<p>- Even though GoogleBase processing was failing, the data feed message on the web site said &#8220;8660 of 8660 items inserted&#8221;. The GoogleBase data feed processing code was crashing on my data feed file, but apparently GoogleBase doesn&#8217;t code in place to trap these types of errors and provide useful diagnostics to outsiders like me.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
- In my 8660 product data feed file, only a few products caused the problem and there was no easy way to narrow down the source of the problem. I had to manually divide my file into parts, submit the parts manually, then wait on the &#8220;success&#8221; emails to arrive, then rinse and repeat.<br />
- There was nobody at GoogleBase support with the willingness or ability (not sure which) to help me troubleshoot this issue.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
- Documentation for data feeds is just vague and wrong enough to keep you guessing. The biggest documentation issue I see right now is with product_type and how it interacts with the Use Quoted Fields setting.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p>If you run into a similar problem, the first step is to make sure you are getting all the data feed emails. Only the email said &#8220;No items inserted&#8221;. Next, you must isolate the data that is causing the problem. I assume my problem with a custom attribute named &#8220;c:length:string&#8221; is pretty specific, but the technique I ended up using to isolate it is general (if slow and painful).</p>
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<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; position: relative;" dir="ltr">these are many of the same similar reasons why it seemed a good idea<br />
to write a feed validation checker with an ever expanding set of checks &#8211;<br />
<a style="color: #0000cc;" rel="nofollow" href="http://celebird.googlepages.com/ckbase.htm" target="_blank">http://celebird.googlepages.com/ckbase.htm</a></p>
<p>also, 70m is proabably an invalid standard-length value &#8212; a valid length would be 70 m</p>
<p>&#8220;standard&#8221; attributes can be google-defined attributes but<br />
are in the context of an item-type; not all defined-attributes<br />
are allowed or are valid within the context of an item-type &#8211;<br />
an obvious example is location; item-type requirements are<br />
well-defined and i believe must be taken into account if any<br />
private-code is creating the final set of attributes and values.</p>
<p>google-base processing has always been more simple counts<br />
and basic formatting rather than robust validation; this is most<br />
evident with respect to encoding, quoted-attributes and other<br />
per-feed features &#8212; i believe this is one reason why the feed&#8217;s<br />
suggestions feature was introduced.</p></div>
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<div class="wpcpdCSS" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 165px; padding: 0px; position: relative; min-height: 45px;">GoogleBase actually does an OK job of identifying some problems (with the suggestions feature). If GoogleBase would catch and report errors like mine that cause a complete crash (I assume) and include the data feed file line number at the time of the crash, that would be a big help.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p>Celebird, I appreciate the effort on both the checker and on this thread -it was your comment that led me to the solution. I didn&#8217;t know about your checker. I just now submitted my test file (http://teztech.com/files/GoogleBaseProducts4F1.txt) and it passed with warnings. You could add a test to check for custom attributes with the names of standard attributes. That test file also has lots of quotes within the product_type field&#8230; from my own tests and comments from others, it looks like if you want to use multiple categories, then you have to set &#8220;Use Quoted Fields&#8221; to &#8220;No&#8221; (which then won&#8217;t allow newline characters in the description because you can&#8217;t use quotes to delimit a field). You could add a check for this as well, but actually, I hope GoogleBase cleans up their act on defining and parsing this field. XML is such a waste, I really don&#8217;t want to switch file formats just for this, but I also admit that text files have their own problems.</p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s possible that &#8220;70 m&#8221; vs. &#8220;70m&#8221; could have fixed the problem as well. On my side, &#8220;length&#8221; is a attribute group defined by my customers and the values entered are free text strings (which makes sense for rock climbing ropes that come in 50m, 60m and 70m), so the safest course for me was to rename the field. At some point, I plan to add support for dimensional shipping. When I do that,I&#8217;ll go back and figure out what Google means by &#8220;length&#8221; and rework things accordingly.</p></div>
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